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Kristin L's avatar

What I think is so interesting about the journal entry at the end of the post today, is that he is dogmatic and there seems to be little, if any, doubt in what he's saying; small is better than big. While Eugene struggled with aspects of pastoring, he appears certain about church size. I also think about how unpopular those statements were during the time he was a pastor, especially the later years, as churches grew bigger and bigger. It also makes me think about how a pastor functions much differently in a big church versus a small church. The pastor of a big church has to be much more focused on sermon delivery and the pastor of a small church has to be much more relational. It seems like it's pretty clear what church attendees have come to desire in America (although I think things might be shifting a little bit.)

Concerning rest, I don't work for a church, but I do work in HR and think about the way we work quite a bit. Rest is not something we seem to value, but it's essential to our work. It's a difficult and complex conversation to have when productivity is valued so much more than rest and recovery. I think we draw a lot of our worth as humans by how much work we can put out into the world, and the effects of that kind of thinking eventually wear us down.

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Jeff Young's avatar

I resonate with this so very much. On multiple levels. I pastor an extremely small church working among the poor and homeless. It is a great challenge on many levels. We have major financial challenges. It struggles to be self-sustaining. The work is hard and. Halle going for families used to middle-class churches - not ones where homeless strangers, sometimes high or hungover, walk in Sunday’s to our rented assembly hall. During Covid my pay was down a huge amount. But somehow we are still surviving through gifts of friends. I’ve never had a sabbatical in 30+ years of ministry and doubt I will have a retirement. I have felt that desire to stop pastoring many times - but then what? What is interesting about Peterson’s comment is that just two days ago I spent 3 hours counseling a young man who said he could not go to a mega church here in town because he can’t imagine just watching a pastor on a big screen and with whom he will never interact. “I am actually sitting here talking to the pastor for an entire morning! And I can do this on a pretty regular basis. This would never happen in one of these larger churches.” Out church, small as it is, has touched many lives among the homeless and impoverished in our community - even in our own poverty - not through large $$ poured into grand services offered; but through personal interaction with people. It really is about that. But it is very difficult to sustain, financially and emotionally.

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