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Pamela S Wolz's avatar

Collier's writing of people and experiences that influenced Peterson led to pleasant reflection on who and what stayed in my "bones". I first thought of a professor who shared truth and great compassion in a private conversation in college when I learned my mother was terminally ill. It was the genuine caring that cushioned, and indelibly imprinted the wise words he shared. To this day, as I sit both personally and professionally with people experiencing loss, that is with me. Another professor in grad school marked me by an assignment. It was a course in multicultural history. I thought I'd be going on a very different journey. But the challenge was to explore our own roots as far back as possible. To understand our own "culture". I've looked at "culture" in a much broader way ever since. I came to know myself better on that journey. Colleagues, many of whom are now friends have enriched my life and perspectives. In spite of being in the final season of my career, I to seek out supervision and host a network group because it enriches my life and enhances my work. The perspectives of others broadens my own. My adult children have marked me, as we converse about authors, speakers, preachers, and experiences. I so loved reading of Buttrick. I look forward to learning more of him. Finally, I could not read without apparent contrasts to religious church cultures that focus more on the messenger than on the Object of the message.

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Thanks, Scot, for hosting this discussion and raising these questions. I'll respond to your first question as to how my education, formation, and experiences coalesce into who I am today. I attended and graduated from Western Seminary in Portland, Oregon in the mid 1980s. It was a great experience. But one of the most shaping influences on my life during those years was my job as an apartment manager. I managed 53 units in two buildings on opposite sides of the street. My wife and I lived in one of the units, and it was 24 blocks from downtown (on the southeast side of the city). At the time, I sometimes resented the way my work "interfered" with my seminary training. I envied a classmate who had family money and bought a house on the slopes of Mount Tabor (not far from where Jim Elliot grew up) and spent his three years studying without needing to pursue employment. Yet God had a different path for me--one that I desperately needed.

The apartment complex I managed, Matawan Manor, provided the context for me to learn how to pastor people and to work with others from different cultures. The tenants were Korean, Caucasian, Italian, African-American, Hmong, etc. After a morning parsing Hebrew verbs and discussing theology at Western, I returned to a world of replacing hot water heaters, patching holes in walls, fixing leaky faucets, and handling all kinds of tenant concerns and complaints. I dealt with domestic disputes, tenants with mental illness, and even drove a young man home after he came to visit a female tenant and ended up pulling a knife on her boyfriend. When the other guy pulled a knife, the young man fled and showed up at "the manager's apartment" and asked if I would drive him home. So I did (and took the opportunity to share the gospel with my captive audience!). Another time, I called for medics when a young lady punched her fist through her living room window during a fight with her boyfriend. Once at midnight, I answered the door to find a young man asked me if I would co-sign a loan for him so he could buy a car. I counseled one young couple who frequently ended their evening by throwing lamps and books and dishes at each other. I counseled another young man and his girlfriend (I was replacing the hot water heater in their apartment) to pursue adoption rather than abortion for an unwanted pregnancy. I couldn't believe how angry he got at me. He wasn't going to "let someone else" raise his child! I do not have time to tell about the tenant whose toilet exploded or the time when I let two thieves into an apartment where they claimed to be guests. They had just robbed the neighborhood Safeway store. Thankfully, they were apprehended without incident.

Now, as I look back, I thank God for "Matawan Manor Seminary." My Christian parents didn't shelter me, and I saw my dad, a pastor, deal with similar kinds of people and situations. But I needed this place, this context to learn for myself how to deal with people. Many years later, I'm still learning. But the lessons during my seminary years were formative.

By the way, I smiled when I read about Eugene's 18-hour effort to plant a church in Townsend, Montana! My two daughters and one of my sons played basketball there often during their high school years. The Townsend Bulldogs were in our conference, and I've fly fished the Missouri River where Eugene would have walked. What a (false) start to his pastoral vocation!

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